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2020年9月22日星期二

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 6)

引言

又是大學生的求職季節。請放心, Auntie 不會叫你們去洗碗(提示:張建宗)跟阿婆爭飯吃我會提供一些英文參考資料,讓小朋友有足夠的心理準備,去面對和拆解常見的求職騙局這幾篇,是這個系列的 (Part 2) (發表日期:2018 6 29 )的延伸,也是 (Part 5) (發表日期:2019110)的補充,如果你沒有看過這個系列,請參考下面的<相關的文章>。如果你不知道甚麼是假面試,請參考 (Part 2) 裡面<延伸閱讀>部份所提供的三篇英語文章,題目有 Fake Interview 這個詞,是外國打工仔女的經驗之談。作者沒有名氣,但頭腦清醒,也敢講真話,具備參考價值。所用的英文並不深奧,大學生應該看得懂。

(Part 2) 中,我提到一個現已消失網上討論區 Icered裡面有很多居港的外國人及專業人士出沒,他們踢爆了中間人的行騙手法,也指名道姓討論那一間外資獵頭公司最多假盤。我有保留精采留言,列印了 Hard Copy。疫症期間被困家中,清理舊物時發現了,張貼在這裡,供大學生和打工仔參考。內容圍繞假招聘和假面試。為免招惹法律風險,文字被輕微修飾過,留言者的網名用英文字母取代。收集時間是 2006 年首季,今日重溫毫不過時,證明求職市場的秩序依然混亂,甚至更亂(原因:官府軟弱無力+各行各業群魔亂舞+政治審查成為常態)。

From Icered (Date: Q1 2006)

A: Please be aware about fake interview of [Name of recruitment agency] on [Job titles or types of jobs] positions. I don’t know what their purpose is but they are not so ethical.

B: Can you share your experience?

C: They just interview the candidates as “an exercise” without recruiting any people.

D: Maybe they try to find out what’s happening in the market, salary-levels, staff in competing companies, etc. Unethical, but very common in HK.

E: Those HR girls or agents have nothing to do with and so they have to do that to retain their position, poor…

F: Whose idea is it to conduct fake interview?

G: Most probably the big boss’s idea to raise the image of his company. He pretends that the company is growing.

H: Yes, good explanation. They just repost the same ad for [Job titles or types of jobs] every three month repeatedly. If they really employ people why the same ad repeats and repeats…

I: Some companies repeatedly advertise job vacancies. Are most of the job ads on newspaper fraud?

J: Actually the companies and the recruitment agencies advertise themselves only. It is cheaper than ordinary ad. But it makes the jobless losing their confidence since they are rejected again and again.

K: Agree with you all. There have never been so many fake recruitment ads particular since 1998. So many years pasted and the ads on newspapers and magazines are mostly cheap ads of headhunters, agencies, companies go to be listed soon, and the worst of all, people search possible competitors for similar positions. Posting ad is cheap. The information obtained from applicants is so valuable for copying CV, and mass marketing purposes.

L: I once worked for [Name of recruitment agency] and in order to get information about a certain industry, we placed a job in the [Name of English newspaper] and interviewed people who worked in that industry. That was a cheap and easy way to get information about competitors, pricing, market share, etc. Then we put that information in our market research report.

M: It is really unfair to the applicants. They are being used as information provider, wasted their time and declining their confidence since they will be rejected later.

N: I wonder if we can sue some of these recruitment agencies that post bogus ads in the newspaper for “false advertising”?

O: What you can do:

  1. If you are company directors, competitors, HR managers, investors; you know the company has trouble finding the right way to do advertising to promote itself. You know what to do with that.  
  2. If you are looking for a job, don’t send CV to it, since you know very well that they are not going to employ you. You should input CVs with fake info. This will mess up their market research.

P: I would like to hear from any lawyers / attorneys on their opinion, as to whether we can sue such companies.

Q: It is not just false advertising; it’s illegal. Against the law and can be prosecuted. Although, unless you have someone within the company to actually testify against their own employer. It is extremely difficult to prosecute.

R: Directors of the company can do that. No one can prove they put fake ad. Because only they know if they are really hiring. You can send them fake CV with perfectly matched background. They will never reply. That proves fake ad. But this cannot prove they post fake ad, they can say they have delayed their hiring process or whatever.

S: [Names of recruitment agencies] collect CV to float them out. Beware.

T: Do you people really think the CVs we get are all great and useful? More than 90% of them are rubbish. Ask around, how many of your friends got his job thru us, and if all the ads we post are fake ones, how do we survive? On the crap candidates who send us rubbish? Grow up!

U: I never get a job thru headhunters. They don’t see my CV useful. I see headhunters do not work. When I became director of MNCs, I always tell my assistants NOT to recruit thru headhunters.

V: [Standard reply used by headhunter] Thank you for sending us your resume. Your CV has been added to our database and our consultant will be in touch with you immediately should your qualification and expertise match any of our clients’ requirements. In the meantime, you are welcome to contact us if you have any other queries and please notify us of any changes in your current status. (Goodbye and thank you for your CV)

下一篇,是來自 LinkedIn 的外國人留言,內容同樣是圍繞假招聘和假面試。

插圖來源:互聯網

相關的文章:

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 5)

2019110

https://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2019/01/part-5.html

節錄:無良僱主或中間人(即:人事顧問或獵頭公司)收集求職者的個人資料,然後轉售圖利,是常見的港式求職騙局。常見的做法:填完申請表格,叫你回家等通知,之後音訊全無。也許會約你去面試,但是感覺很假,因為對方的表情和語氣似背對白,是有劇本的。對方也許會在面試過程中耍手段,真正目的是趕你走(因為收集個人資料的任務已經完成),把放棄的責任推卸到閣下身上。

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 4)
2018
7 13
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2018/07/part-4.html

節錄:如果要改革求職面試這個遊戲,大方向應該是省減不必要的程序(例如:交完 CV 還要填表又要準備 Cover letter 以及在未簽合約的情況之下遞交個人的身份、學歷和工作證明,而那堆東西有可能成為製作假證件或假文件的樣本),提高透明度(而非要求職者無止境地等候)以及讓求職者有較大的話語權(隨時可以叫停)。簡單地說:平衡僱主和求職者之間的期望與要求。

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 3)
2018
7 6
https://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2018/07/part-3.html

節錄:僱主向求職者偷橋,或以測試的名義,要求提供免費服務,時有所聞,也領教過。問題的關鍵,是無良僱主覺得遊戲規則對自己有利,反正不請你無須解釋,兩句廢話就可以送你出門,不吃(便宜)白不吃。這個不中計?還有下一位,遊戲繼續。有些僱主甚至覺得,求職者有責任用行動、金錢或肉體來證明自己的誠意,所以未入行先吃虧是應該的。

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 2)
2018
6 29
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2018/06/part-2.html

節錄:跟印度騙子交手之後,我改變了做法,要求來電的獵頭族提供 Job Description。如果沒有,拒絕會面,以免被對方用來應酬上司。然後我發現,收到的 Job Description 其實是改寫自已經在公開渠道刊登的招聘廣告,上面的英文被輕微修改過,也有一字不改,博大霧(以為求職者不知道出處)。搞邊科?找到一個有很多居港外國人和專業人士出沒的英文討論區 IceRed,裡面有解釋。

「進階版」求職須知 (Part 1)
2018
6 22
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2018/06/part-1.html

節錄:這個系列旨在提供一些「進階版」的求職知識。港式求職騙局花樣繁多,跟大家一樣, Auntie 中過伏(港式粵語:中伏=中了埋伏),部份經歷已經在這裡公開。寫出來,希望幫到讀者。幾十歲人,老皮老肉,不怕丟臉。

印度騙子
2015
8 14
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2015/08/blog-post_14.html

節錄:原來所謂的 Opening 是假的。他的真正目的,是向我推銷一個聲稱可以協助求職者揾工(粵語:找工作)的「嶄新」服務套餐,透過所謂「超準」的心理測驗以及幾次「深入」的面談,幫我找出事業發展的方向以及最適合我的僱主,然後他會代表我向僱主敲門。整個過程分階段收費,首階段收費(港幣)$3000。如果他無法幫我找到工作,半年之後回水(粵語:退款)。即是:掠水局(粵語:騙錢的陷阱)。

雞肋(一)
2013
8 7
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2013/08/blog-post.html

節錄:九七之後,香港的就業市場翻天覆地,人事顧問這個行業,基本上沒有好日子過。原因之一:香港的就業市場經歷多次的裁員潮。原因之二:香港經濟轉型失敗,本地的就業市場依然側重金融地產。原因之三:部份行業或工種,早已被資訊科技所取代(例如:秘書)。原因之四:大陸海歸派南下,移民外國的香港專業人士回流,令中高層職位的競爭變得激烈。結論是:香港經濟差,職位空缺流失,連人事顧問也要轉行,有人轉型從政(例如:張志剛、吳克儉)。

Disintermediation
(非中介化)
2018
3 28
https://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2018/03/disintermediation.html

節錄:中間人被飛,商學院語言叫 Disintermediation(非中介化)。首當其衝的,是舊經濟的中間人行業(例如:商業銀行、地產代理、人事顧問)。華人社會的傳媒行業,向來是 Power broker 的溫床,部份「資深傳媒人」其實是穿梭於不同陣營之間的中間人,所以你會見到這種「傳媒人」跟地產代理或人事顧問或建制派或人大政協埋堆,一起罵年輕人不肯捱,我後生果陣慘過你但是沒有自殺也沒有精神病。夕陽工業,同病相憐,圍爐取暖,就是那麼一回事。

給新奴隸
2016
9 20
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2016/09/blog-post_20.html

節錄:至於面試之後音訊全無,又或者約好的面試突然取消,而所謂的「理由」真假莫辨(例如:Your position has been put on hold. Due to schedule change of the senior management we regret to inform you that the interview on day/month/year has been cancelled),Auntie 也試過不止一次,僱主是跨國企業。難分真與假,人面多險詐,鬼界(洋人)也一樣。(提示:許冠傑+浪子心聲)遇上這種情況,不管是求職或求愛,都請你自設限期,切勿痴痴地等或苦苦痴纏,浪費生命。

Online Form
2018
9 13
https://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2018/09/online-form.html

節錄:對方是試圖製造虛假的希望,乘機收集閣下的個人資料,想篩走不夠富貴的申請人(原因:美國人這個身份很昂貴,因為全球收入都要繳稅,而且稅率很高),還是想把放棄的責任推卸到求職者身上,or all of the above,自己想。真相是:洋人耍手段,用迂迴曲折的手法說不。

教育騙局(三)
2017
5 20
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2017/05/blog-post_20.html

節錄:刊登招聘廣告並不代表我會請人,那個空缺可以是假的,登廣告只是程序上的需要。而就算那個空缺是真的,我也有權用內定的人選來填補,叫你來面試並不代表我會請你,閣下有可能是陪跑,又或者是免費的臨時演員,協助我演戲應酬撥款的官府。如果你依然申請這份工,請不要怪我浪費閣下的時間。
 
自報家門(二)
2009
7 17
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2009/07/blog-post_17.html

節錄:在面試時向求職者查家宅,一方面是想估計對方能夠帶來多少張新單,另一方面亦想知道對方是否有人撐腰,尤其是對方的直系親屬當中,有沒有得罪不起的人(例如:警察、律師、議員、傳媒和社團之類),從而判斷對方被我方欺負,又或者關係破裂之後,是否有還擊的能力,是否可以把我方集團連根拔起。換言之,挑選合適的受害人。

自報家門(三) 
2009
7 24
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2009/07/blog-post_24.html

節錄:從求職者的角度看,港式求職面試永遠充滿挫折感,甚至是一種制度化的欺凌。如果你出身寒微又拒絕服從主流的話,港式求職面試會令你想死,因為它把你變成「真人 Show (Reality Show) 的參賽者。在刻薄勢利的評判眼中,所有社會的錯都會變成你個人的錯,而你必須為自己的種種「缺點」承擔所有責任,並且設法「改過」,否則你會立即被淘汰。

自報家門(四) 
2009
8 1
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.hk/2009/08/blog-post.html

節錄:以「第二代」的心態,當然不會容忍自己的孩子(第四代)在求職的過程中受盡奚落和欺凌。「第二代」口中說競爭是硬道理,擁護自由市場的規律,服膺弱肉強食的森林法則,但是私底下絕對不會由得自己的孩子被人欺負。面對就業市場的惡劣形勢,他們絕對不會袖手旁觀、坐視不理。「第二代」於是會動用自己的人脈關係為兒女尋找暑期實習工、全職的工作機會、生意夥伴以及投資者,甚至結婚的對象。

交數(三) 
2013
2 16
http://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2013/02/blog-post_16.html

節錄:跟政府部門或者公營機構相比,商業機構的「交數」(達到銷售指標)文化來得更徹底、更瘋狂,充份體現出弱肉強食的「森林定律」(Law of the Jungle)。有些服務行業,要求員工交數,其實是變相誘使新入職者「貼錢打工」,說穿了,是無良僱主或者黑社會精心鋪排的求職騙局,目的是騙財,所以特別喜歡聘請入世未深的年輕人,又或者是對香港認識不深的新移民,常用的手法如下。

廢話之都

2019 3 3

https://xiaoshousha.blogspot.com/2019/03/blog-post.html

節錄:用西方世界對於自殺現象的討論或報導作為比較(例如:自殺跟資本主義的關係),你會明白華文傳媒的見識水平有多落後。也許是故意的,把自殺現象抽離政治經濟和社會脈絡,拒絕承認社會有病,避談中共的治港政策,把責任推卸到自殺者的身上,用廢話來總結,就可以鞏固現有的遊戲規則,傳媒機構的大老闆手上也就增添了談判籌碼,這是現代版的人血饅頭(提示:魯迅+藥)。

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